“For whatever those videos reveal of the inner workings of the abortion industry, they point as well to this related truth: Defending animal welfare while remaining adamantly pro-choice with respect to the abortion of human animals is not morally and intellectually sustainable. As an argument retaining any credibility, it’s over.”
Why Animal Lovers Should Abhor Planned Parenthood
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Madelyn, that was a great article, thanks for sharing it. It’s crazy if a person even thinks about it for one nanosecond. Almost without fail, the people who are most pro abortion are also the most pro animal, and they never skip a beat. Don’t they like to accuse Christians of cognitive dissonance? Seems like that stance would cause some for sure.
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Well said, Wally. Some of my acquaintances have had many nanoseconds to see the obvious dissonance but don’t take the opportunity. I marvel.
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But, not to defend them, it’s like many things they will never understand until they come to repentance and faith. I was all about being pro choice not that many years ago. Always said it would never be a choice I would make, but that it was okay if anybody else did. The sudden realization that I was wrong was actually quite instantaneous.
So, heathens will behave they way they do, and for us to expect anything less is cognitive dissonance our parts. Which leads me to my actual point LOL. We won’t change this through the legal system or by picketing abortion clinics. We can only see it changed by sharing the Gospel with people and seeing one heart at a time changed.
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But it doesn’t follow that those who are pro-animal are pro-abortion. This issue has been discussed on the Animal Liberation Front website:
http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Philosophy/Abortion_AR.htm
http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Philosophy/Abortion%20versus%20Animal%20Rights.htm
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I haven’t time to read now, though I will, but let me just say that there are many who ARE pro-choice and pro-animal rights. If you have a Facebook page, this is starkly obvious. There are animal videos galore and animal rights memes probably make up 50% of my newsfeed. Most of these same people are (still)adamantly pro-choice.
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And there are also vegans who are opposed to abortion, but you haven’t covered that in your blog post.
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I am not sure of the point you are making there to be honest. The one article just really compares animal rights protests with anti abortion protests. The other pretty clearly seems pro choice, and at one point even seems to indicate that a fetus should have less rights than an animal.
Perhaps you could explain what you meant in your comment, as I seem to have missed it.
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My point is that it is a philosophical discussion which is intended to be thought provoking. The US-centric perspective that you both have is that you equate animal rights with abortionists.
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Well that seems to be how it works as a good part of the humanist world becomes far more upset over the death of an animal than the murder of a child. And don’t get me wrong I love animals. So it is not a debate about philosophy it is a debate about the murder of children who are human beings. Animals are wonderful but they are not human
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Secular Vegan, the essay doesn’t attempt to cover every shade of abortion stance on the part of animal defenders…it simply demonstrates that those who DO support animal rights AND ALSO count themselves pro-choice have a untenable dissonance problem.
The essay definitely does not equate animal activists with abortionists, but points out that those who hold both views are contradicting themselves.
It goes without saying, that of course, there are many animal rights supporters who hold a consistent pro-life ethic. But sad to say,in the US, the most vocal and perhaps most common political attitude is pro-abortion and anti-animal cruelty.
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Mary and Wally, thanks for your replies. I agree that many in the vegan / animal rights ‘movements’ are hypocritical on this issue, to the point of closing down any debate on it. This is particularly the case on the various ‘vegetarian’ and ‘vegan’ discussion boards where some of the administrators even censor the word ‘abortion’, preferring to replace it with the more clinical ‘termination’. There are people who are consistently pro-life for both animals and unborn children, including some ‘pro-life feminists’ who are active in the Vegan Society (UK). There are cases where abortion is medically necessary to protect the life of the woman (my mother had an ectopic pregnancy which would have killed her). There are also other ethical issues with abortion, if a girl is raped, should she be forced to carry the child? The ‘X’ case in Ireland for example, which you may have heard of.
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Hey Secular
Thank you as well for commenting back. My stance on abortion is what it is, but I would agree that there are things we should think out further than we do in regards to the issue. I oppose it, but clearly understand more has to happen than simply banning it. We still have the issue of the women and the babies that does not end with just saying they have to carry the baby to term. The problem is, even though I get it, I don’t have solutions just off the cuff.
I have been mulling over a post on the subject, though. To address what, if abortion was actually completely and totally illegal, we would then do about the mothers and babies. So, from my standpoint, you make a decent point.
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Secular Vegan, thanks for your knowledgeable input. Not to belabor the point, but…though ectopic pregnancy may be abortion under the letter, it is not in spirit. (Don’t even know whether it’s considered “abortion” medically) In the case of ectopic pregnancy, both mother and child will positively die if nothing is done. The child cannot develop outside of the womb anyway.
It is not an elective procedure, favoring one life over the other.
Yes, I do believe that victims of rape should be encouraged to carry their child to term. Better they should know that they made the best, and most noble choice when given a horrific situation, than to participate in making the innocent child a victim also.
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What the H#77 is wrong w/you?
CHICKENS are people too…
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