Sorry I Even Had to Say This

Just now a blogger who I have protected from gossip and verbal abuse on my own blog (though unbeknownst to him/her) has cherry-picked a couple of sentences from one of my posts to use as straw-man building material in order to virtue-signal, which seems to be the sole reason for her/his blog. It matters not that I’m ridiculously misrepresented, either stupidly or dishonestly, as long as a case can be built which exalts the blogger over those of my kind.

Since we are a monolith full of hate and bent on destruction. Because it’s undeniably true that people who want innocent babies protected from destruction want children to suffer…? The post doesn’t warrant reply.

But where has civility gone? If I told a hundred of my acquaintances that Person A said that tiny kittens shouldn’t be subject to euthanasia, and that therefore Person A doesn’t care about cats, wants them to starve, and really wants them to die; and that furthermore, the kitties who aren’t destroyed will definitely grow up to be evil feral cats, I would have a few questions to answer.

First about my reasoning ability. But then I ought to have questions to answer about my own behavior. The impropriety and unfairness of using the blogger’s own words against him with such careless opportunism. Of what my agenda could be by spreading such obviously invested hate about him.

No, there won’t be a link here, nor will I throw dirty slander around in my own house. The world is a difficult enough place already for the lack of human empathy, such as one sees over at the blogger’s place.

 

 

16 thoughts on “Sorry I Even Had to Say This

  1. madblog Post author

    What the blogger had to say about another person mentioned, and how far she/he had to intentionally stretch the truth about said person, is downright abusive. Have these self-proclaimed atheists no morals at all, nor conscience?

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    1. Wally Fry

      I would say very little, in fact. I know you have seen it, and lived it…the constant twisting around of things said to clearly make them seem they have a meaning never intended. This is the same as the accusations that are framed as questions. The old…”When did you stop beating your wife?” dilemma.

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  2. violetwisp

    I know what you mean, because it’s obvious that all of you do care for children and human beings in general. It’s the contrast between intention and reality that I hoped to highlight. The point of the post is that denying women abortion, denying fellow citizens shared healthcare and wanting to rip criminals to shreds aren’t productive policies to pursue in terms of looking out for the best interests of children.

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    1. madblog Post author

      What reason do you have to believe that I want to deny my fellow citizens healthcare? Or that I want to rip criminals to shreds? I do not think I have shared any opinions on those matters at all.

      Violet, reality is not your forte. Your “writing” exists in an imaginary virtual unreality where saying makes things so.

      The stupidly hackneyed old narrative where Christians don’t care about children after they’re born can only be repeated by people who live in bubbles where no Christian is ever encountered. If you were where I am, you’d see quite a different reality. But there’s little point in explaining to you.

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      1. madblog Post author

        And Violet, you are indeed the person who I didn’t allow to be slandered on my blog. Someone wanted to post a comment which was rather unfavorable to you, but I refused to allow it because: You were not involved in the conversation, that is, you weren’t “here” and I wouldn’t have you gossiped about behind your back.

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      2. violetwisp

        The three messages often go hand in hand – criminalise abortion, smaller government and vicious punishment of criminals. Am I wrong about this? It’s a feature of right-wing or Republican Christian thinking. I’m sure I’m not imagining it.

        You have a hand in at least one of these – the one where you think young girls who find themselves pregnant, either through force, ignorance or sheer sexual enthusiasm, should be compelled to continue with the pregnancy and give birth against their will. That’s true, isn’t it? You view abortion as murder and think it should be stopped at all costs – costs to the mothers, and costs to the babies that are brought into the world as essentially unwanted sentient beings.

        I believe concern for children has to cover all children, and adults – with priority to those who are sentient, independent creatures. I’m not a ‘fan’ of abortion and I’d love for all little creatures to be grown to maturity, but I know the reality of women’s lives doesn’t make this the least harmful course of action in many cases. All we can do is equip our children with knowledge about sex, knowledge about protection and a supportive environment if the unexpected happens to them – we can’t force other women to make our choices, and we shouldn’t criminalise them for having their own understanding about what works best for their own lives.

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        1. madblog Post author

          You are wrong on this and you are imagining it.

          Mostly I’m amazed that you would think that I want to have a discussion with you. Please leave me out of your posts. Thank you. Be well.

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        2. violetwisp

          Okay, I’ll try and remember. I forgot you take it so personally then refuse to discuss it anyway. If you write anything else I find horrific that I feel the need to discuss, I may quote you but won’t link to you. Is that better?

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    2. Citizen Tom

      @violetwisp

      There are lots of excuses for abusing logic and decency. inherent in such abuses there is often a “question” that assumes an unsubstantiated truth. My favorite is the supposed “right” to health care.

      Democrat Liberals will try to put you on the spot. Instead of asking whether you are still beating your wife, they will ask: “Yes or no, do you believe people have the right to health care?” If you say yes, they will assume that means you agree that government should fund “free” health care. If you say no, they will assume you are selfish and hateful. They are so caught up in their own biases they don’t want to know what you actually believe. Hence, they insist upon a “yes” or a “no”.

      Giving government bunches of money does not necessarily solve problems. It just gives politicians bunches of other people’s money to spend. Even if taxation for such purposes was ethical, history does not give us much reason to believe our leaders will spend our money wisely.

      During a debate about Obamacare, I had a commenter put this on my blog.

      I know that you are not usually interested in hearing from people who actually know what they are talking about, but I recently read an article that quoted the philosopher Bertrand Russell on what would be a good attitude for non-experts to take in regard to the opinions of experts:

      “(1) that when the experts are agreed, the opposite opinion cannot be held to be certain; (2) that when they are not agreed, no opinion can be regarded as certain by a non-expert; and (3) that when they all hold that no sufficient grounds for a positive opinion to exist, the ordinary man would do well to suspend judgement.”

      Russell noted that “[T]hese propositions may seem mild, yet if accepted, they would positively revolutionize human life” because so many strongly felt, but uninformed, opinions would fall necessarily by the wayside. (=> https://citizentom.com/2017/03/24/stupid-just-plain-stubbornly-stupid/#comment-73113)

      Here is how I responded.

      There are no universally accepted “experts”. As Russell observed, his propositions are not accepted. Why? There are no “experts”. There are only people who call themselves “experts”. That is especially true with respect to politics and religion. So it is that you pick your experts, and I pick mine. It is our right to choose our own “experts” or to not pick any at all.

      You say:

      I have no idea if Obamacare is collapsing or why or in which states. (It seems, however, to be doing best in the states that embraced it).

      You don’t even know enough to determine whether the system is healthy, yet you put a bunch of community organizers who don’t know any more than you in charge of other people’s healthcare. Have you ever considered the possibility that you ought to mind your own business and allow others the right to choose their own experts?(=> https://citizentom.com/2017/03/24/stupid-just-plain-stubbornly-stupid/#comment-73114)

      Minding our own business. Being charitable with our own money. When we think we should be empowered to solve all the problems in the world, I suppose those are impossibly strange concepts. Yet when it comes right down to it, Russell just thought he was so smart he ought to have the right to impose his choice of “experts” upon everyone else. That is sort of behavior is just arrogant.

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  3. oldschoolcontemporary

    Fight! Fight! Fight! Seriously though, this kind of “interaction” gets really old really fast. Every once in awhile, merely on account of the continued hardness of a person’s heart, or even their duplicity, in addition to the time invested in protecting/teaching/helping them, I’ll get this increased urge to become a clock watcher. “Couldn’t I have spent this time sharing God’s word with someone more in need, someone less closed off.” I’ll ask myself. Maybe these kinds of personal reflection aren’t the most helpful or relevant to the above situation, nevertheless, trying to encourage my sister whenever I can. 🙂

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    1. madblog Post author

      Not saying this applies here, but I see a lot of blog evangelism spent on people who have gone to great pains to be the sort of people we are cautioned not to waste pearls upon. If you have gone to the trouble to found and maintain a blog dedicated to the discredit and ridicule, the destruction of religion, you just might have proven that you are the object of: “Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.”

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  4. oldschoolcontemporary

    Oh yeah, I’m probably guilty of that too. An example of it at it’s worst would be what I’ve read over at the comedy sojourn blog, not sure you’ve ever visited them before. Lovely people, very sweet to me, still, I’ve gone onto their site and read waves and waves of abuse shared between the father and daughter team against visiting atheists. I appreciate how they’re antagonised, and that they bite, which gets the conversation rolling. Still, I can visit and at first say to myself “Oh, 300 messages in a single post, that’s massive. I wonder what they’ve written about.” But when you go in to take a look it’s all “you *&$% &^%$£*$!!!!,” and this is ongoing with what the posters believe are “witty” little replies added in between. It’s just topsy-turvy land. Maybe I just clicked into a few bad posts.

    In comparison, I’ve been sharing with believers on the subject of universalism and Calvinism (which I’m sure you’d enjoy too). Just comparing the quality of discussion is like visiting another planet. They’re just really uplifting and edifying exchanges of ideas. I’ll drop you a link because I’m thinking you’d enjoy the article and video.

    https://oldschoolcontemporary.wordpress.com/2017/05/01/when-it-takes-an-arminian-to-explain-calvinism/comment-page-1/#comment-726

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    1. madblog Post author

      Thank you very much–I will read there!

      My experience there was as the same as yours–I even called them on it and they defended their methods. Nothing good’s going to happen there.

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